David says: Hi Nader, I'm happy to try to answer your questions. Please feel free to respond with them.
Nader says: Question 1 I got from Matt Slick who is the founder of CARM.org
Question 2 is from A.W. Pinks analysis of John 10:27-29
Question 3 is something I came up with myself
That's the file.
I appreciate your offering to help out with this smile emoticon
David says: Question 1 is pretty simple. We aren't Christ, and so our failures aren't his.
Question 2 has lots of parts. Do you want each one addressed individually?
Nader says: however you see best to disprove it
Your aim is to convince me that these verses don't teach the Perseverance of the Saints
that's why I posted the status
David says: And I take it it isn't sufficient to show that such an interpretation contradicts other Scriptures, you only want the reply to limit itself to an exegesis of these passages alone?
Nader says: yes as if we start quoting other passages that don't directly relate to this then we will start discussing the multiple interpretations of those other passages which will probably just span out to a pointless debate
would you agree?
David says: Not at all, but I'm happy to accommodate your restrictions. Is it ok with you if I reply tomorrow? Getting kids to bed now.
Nader says: yes that's ok. Take your time
I'm not so much looking for a debate but I do want to read your interpretations of these as I've never seen anyone explain these 3 questions
you can refer to other passages when you see necessary
but please try keep it specifically aimed at answering the questions if you can
David says: No, I'll do it your way, so there's no saying I didn't later
Nader says: Sounds good
Chat conversation end
"And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I ALWAYS do the things that are pleasing to Him."
"And this is the WILL OF HIM who sent Me, that of ALL that he has given me I LOSE NOTHING, but raise it up on the last day."
“And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also CALLED; those he called, he also JUSTIFIED; those he justified, he also GLORIFIED.”
These are my three questions. I have an open mind and ask this in all sincerity. If you can give me reasonable answers for these three questions then I will change my mind. May the Lord enlighten all of our eyes to the truth.